2. Pages 6 - 10: while in the document you recognize the importance of peatlands (wetlands) I think that special reference to their incorporation into models in needed. In several places you refer to 'forest biogeochemistry' and'forest carbon' models, but there is a major step required to get the carbon cycle of wetland into these models. In the case of forests, soil moisture is important, but it is not the only or overriding controlling variable. However, in wetland, defining the moisture regime is the primary determinant of whether the systems are large (and persistent) sinks for CO2 and/or large or small source of CH4. This means that the hydrological component of the ecosystem model will make or break the success of modelling the C cycle in these systems. How one does this in regional to continental scale C modelling is certainly a challenge - one that few are addressing and one that there seems to be no obvious answer. 3. Page 11 #3 "Enhance ... inventories ..." - this is a critical problem and tends not to get much attention (it is not exciting!), but to define the initial conditions this information is needed for most models. 4. Page 16 "The budget problem ..." : I think here it might be worth working in the difference of net ecosystem exchange (what all the processes add up to) and net biome exchange (processes plus disturbance). This is a critical issue in determining over what time period one is considering the problem of 'resolving' the budget - no ecosystems that I know of a near an equilibrium so one has to place all budget considerations into the context of its temporal location in a disturbance/land use regime. 5. Continuing on the budget issue: in most of the work we do on C cycling there is the implicit assumption that we know how to relate contemporary fluxes to long-term C cycling - I am not sure we really know how to do this. Why I raise this issue is in our peatland work, where we have a complete record of C accumulation over the last 6 to 8 K years, we have an apparent disparity between what we are measuring now and what the past record tells us the peatland have accumulated. In our case this difference amounts to about 50 to 60 g C/m^2/yr. This raises the question of whether we are observing some shift in C uptake in eastern NA peatlands (climate, N desposition, elevated CO2 ...) or is it we do not know how to connect the contemporary to the past? 6. Page 20: in our modelling efforts coupling the model Steve Frolking developed (PCARS) to CLASS and a local climate model the major problem we encounter is the precipitation input to the ecosystem. Ecosystems are sensitive to precipitation yet we do not have much confidence in what climate or meteorological models give us - the meteorological models are certainly better, but coupling them to ecosystem models in a regional domain becomes computationally intensive. How do we handle the issue of uncertainty in this major input? 7. Page 32: "Flux-Canada" is referred to - I believe the correct name is FLuxnet-Canada. 8. Page 39 and on many pages before this: one of the major issues that needs to be resolved on the measurement and modelling of terrestrial systems is our treatment of soil CO2 exchange. We build reasonable complicated models of photosynthesis and plant respiration and yet we treat soils with a simple first order approximation of mass, modified by soil moisture and temperature. From a series of experiments it is becoming clear that we need to look below the ground a lot more and develop techniques to measure and then model respiration that comes from the decomposition of SOM, root exudates, roots, and recent litter (both root and above ground). This is especially important given the results of the coupled carbon climate models - in the Cox et al. all the action was in the soils, but how well represented were the soils? I do not have answers to these questions but I think it is the weakest component in our understanding of terrestrial C cycling. This speaks directly to the issue you raised in the document of slow and fast processes - the soils span both. Hope these are useful. I am sorry I can not attend the meeting - I think it will be very interesting. If you need some Canadian input in the future do not hesitate to contact me - I may not be the best person but I might be able to make the necessary connections for you. Nigel _______________________ Nigel T. Roulet Professor of Geography & Director of the Centre for Climate and Global Change Research McGill University, 805 Sherbrooke St. West, Montreal PQ H3A 2K6, Canada Telephone (514) 398-4945; Facsimile: (514) 398-7347 roulet@geog.mcgill.ca http://www.geog.mcgill.ca/faculty/ http://www.mcgill.ca/ccgcr/english.html